Comments on: Joey Logano’s Scary Crash Caused By CoT?

By: geoff

geoff — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:12:39 +0000

AH Hopper
did not search it,some have seen it
similar crash thats all
been fun,lookin forward to national open from the grove
geoff fl

By: hopper

hopper — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:39:40 +0000

Amen to that, Steve! God has indeed protected many, and he does so every day.

Shootout, good point. The ARCA crashes did happen in the old body style of race cars. I’m glad somebody finally made a good argument. However, I do have one question. Why is it that so many people say they hate the CoT, and then when somebody calls it out, people go crazy and start making arguments for it? Heck, some people have even started name-calling. Just an observation.

By: Shootout Style

Shootout Style — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:18:57 +0000

I’d certainly add a slew of ARCA crashes in Cup-spec cars. Including Clair Zimmerman getting into the fence at Daytona in 2005 and Ryan Fischer even getting a piece of the fence at Gateway in 2007.

When cars crash, crazy things happen. And I have no love for the COT.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:49:52 +0000

We have mentioned the Bobby Allison catch fence flip an Rusty’s classic, but no one has mentioned Ricky Rudd’s pirouette (sp?) at Daytona where he taped his eyes open the next days to race! Stud of the decade, in my opinion. And on another neat subject, when Ricky unretired to go back to Yates racing, our friend Jimmy Spencer mentioned their Bible studies together (I assume with their wives). God has protected many, and to adapt Jimmy”s signature quote, “God never forgets”.

By: hopper

hopper — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:23:40 +0000

Also, to correct you on your point about drivers flipping and not being unhurt before the CoT, between the years of 2001-2007(the years with the old car/hans devices/roof flaps/plates/etc.), there were 10 flips total in the Sprint Cup series(correct me if I’m missing any).

2001: Tony Stewart(Daytona 500), Bobby Labonte(EA Sports 500)
2002: Steve Park(Pocono 500)
2003: Ryan Newman(Daytona 500), Elliott Sadler(EA Sports 500)
2004: Michael Waltrip(Daytona 500), Carl Long(Rockingham 400)
2005: Scott Wimmer(Daytona 500), Scott Riggs(UAW Ford 500)
2006: NONE
2007: Clint Bowyer(Daytona 500)

8 of those came at plate tracks. NOBODY hit the catch fence. And the most important fact: Nobody was hurt, with the exception of Elliott Sadler, who was released from the hospital the next day.

In 7 years, 1 person was hurt in flips by the old car, and he raced the next week. In 2 years with the CoT, 8 people have been hurt(fans at Talladega after the catch fence accident).

Which car is safer?

By: hopper

hopper — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:07:34 +0000

I am aware of the fact that we did have flips in the older cars. But they weren’t like this. Nearly all of those were at plate tracks where the speeds are high, and the air got up underneath the car and flipped it. There were a few freak exceptions(like Park at Pocono and Long at the Rock), but they didn’t happen frequently. This has been twice in a year and a half. We also never saw a catch fence adventure with the older style body of car after the roof flaps and plates and all that were added. Yes, we did see flips with the old car, but not flips like this.

By: MISSU3

MISSU3 — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:52:13 +0000

Yup, never had any cars flipping or rolling until that dreaded COT showed up. YES, we did and those guys didn’t climb out of the car unhurt. Just hate to give any credit to NASCAR for anything, huh? Joey thanked God and I hope Edwards, McDowell and Joey all thanked Dale Earnhardt next, because he is the reason they are safe.

By: hopper

hopper — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:28:42 +0000

Alright Geoff, so now we are going to compare Allison’s crash, which happened in an even older style of car, with Edwards’. At least you have now found an accident with an older body style that had the same result as one with the CoT. But alas, you forget that was before restrictor plates were implemented, and way before the body style previous to the CoT’s was brought into the sport. Sorry, try again.

By: geoff

geoff — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:37:57 +0000

AH Hopper,confused again
Bobby Allison is not imaginary
you have missed pebble again
geoff fl

By: hopper

hopper — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:16:15 +0000

I don’t know what you’re trying to prove by comparing a Talladega wreck to a Dover wreck. Of course the Dega wreck is going to be worse. It’s a high-speed track. If you want to compare the severity of two crashes, compare Wallace’s 10 flips to Edwards in the catch fence. Which is worse?

Yes, I compared the CoT Talladega crash to an imaginary one. You know why? Because nothing like that ever happened in the old car. That’s the whole point.

As for the two truck accidents, in case you hadn’t noticed, the truck nose practically is the CoT nose, making the trucks more like the CoT than any other car on any other race track.

Thank you for reading.