Comments on: Time to Compromise in NASCAR http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/ A NASCAR Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:30:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lizzard http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Lizzard Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:27:47 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-497 Watching Superbike or F1, hell, even IRl and the NNS series and trucks are more interesting to watch than the last 10 plodding races of the "Chase". It is boring and most definitely messed up. Like in the 60's and 70's in Nascar when they were messing with the points system. I totally agree: recind the Chase, recind the old points system, and make the points less, and more close. Get the points total for a winner down to around 43, give a guy 3 for leading most laps (there needs to be incentive for running well) and 1 point for leading a lap. Total max points for a winner: 47 points. Total max points for a 43rd place car: 5 points, 1 point if they can't get a lead, or lead most laps. Simple, easy, nothing to it. 43 cars, 43 points. 3 points for most laps led, 1 point for leading a lap. Done. Now, you have potential for everyone who TRIES (this now excludes start and parks, either they park it and get less points, or try like hell and eat up their machines in the process to get more points and stay in the hunt) and keeps at it. No favorites. 1 point, 1 position. COME ON NASCAR....WAKE UP Watching Superbike or F1, hell, even IRl and the NNS series and trucks are more interesting to watch than the last 10 plodding races of the “Chase”. It is boring and most definitely messed up. Like in the 60’s and 70’s in Nascar when they were messing with the points system. I totally agree: recind the Chase, recind the old points system, and make the points less, and more close. Get the points total for a winner down to around 43, give a guy 3 for leading most laps (there needs to be incentive for running well) and 1 point for leading a lap. Total max points for a winner: 47 points. Total max points for a 43rd place car: 5 points, 1 point if they can’t get a lead, or lead most laps. Simple, easy, nothing to it. 43 cars, 43 points. 3 points for most laps led, 1 point for leading a lap. Done. Now, you have potential for everyone who TRIES (this now excludes start and parks, either they park it and get less points, or try like hell and eat up their machines in the process to get more points and stay in the hunt) and keeps at it. No favorites. 1 point, 1 position. COME ON NASCAR….WAKE UP

]]> By: Anne Simmons http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-495 Anne Simmons Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:04:03 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-495 The last ten races in Nascar Sprint Cup are now like watching paint dry. Jerry Punch and the group try like crazy to make the races interesting but fail. The point system did not need to be fixed. If you are a fan of drivers 13 thru 43, the fun is gone. No wonder the stands are no longer full. The last ten races in Nascar Sprint Cup are now like watching paint dry. Jerry Punch and the group try like crazy to make the races interesting but fail. The point system did not need to be fixed. If you are a fan of drivers 13 thru 43, the fun is gone. No wonder the stands are no longer full.

]]> By: Steve http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-494 Steve Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:49:56 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-494 A system needs to be created that will keep the points close for the entire season so you don't need to manufacture an exciting ending to the season. Another words find a system where the gap in points between first and last is relatively small and you will have your solution. While people don't like to compare IRL and F1 to Nascar, they have good points systems. Nascar needs to follow their lead a little bit and do the same. Of course Nascar not wanting to be compared to the other series is probably why we don't have this in place already A system needs to be created that will keep the points close for the entire season so you don’t need to manufacture an exciting ending to the season. Another words find a system where the gap in points between first and last is relatively small and you will have your solution. While people don’t like to compare IRL and F1 to Nascar, they have good points systems. Nascar needs to follow their lead a little bit and do the same. Of course Nascar not wanting to be compared to the other series is probably why we don’t have this in place already

]]> By: djones http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-493 djones Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:40:05 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-493 If the Chase is so good for the CUP series, why isn't it being used in the NW & Truck series too? I don't like the Chase. BF needs to admit his mistake and revert back to the old points system. Consistency has always been the way of racing, not necessarily winning. Juablo and Carl proved this by making the Chase. Race winners didn't even make the Chase. I agree with Sheila. Drivers 13th-43rd might as well not show up during the Chase. Their season is over. If the Chase is so good for the CUP series, why isn’t it being used in the NW & Truck series too?

I don’t like the Chase. BF needs to admit his mistake and revert back to the old points system. Consistency has always been the way of racing, not necessarily winning. Juablo and Carl proved this by making the Chase. Race winners didn’t even make the Chase.

I agree with Sheila. Drivers 13th-43rd might as well not show up during the Chase. Their season is over.

]]> By: Carey http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-492 Carey Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:47:00 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-492 You are an idiot, nothing else needs to be said. A two champion system, you are an idiot!!! You are an idiot, nothing else needs to be said. A two champion system, you are an idiot!!!

]]> By: Sheila Hawley http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Sheila Hawley Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:30:34 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-490 In my opinion, there was no reason to start a new way to crown a champion. The system that was in place was working. Why fix something that was not broken? It was more fun and more exciting having a 36 race season than the 26 and 10 race system. 12th place can't do any worse than 12th. And 13th can't do any better. Is that really what it's supposed to be about? All Jimmy has to do is be in the top 12 after 26 races and he will win every year. Why is that exciting? In 2003, Terry Labonte raced into the top 10 in the 36th race. Kurt Busch raced out of it. That's exciting. In my opinion, giving a 10th place driver the chance to win it all in the last 10 races is not exciting. Jimmy will win his 7 like Petty and Earnhardt all in a row unless we get rid of this stupid system. If you want to watch a play-off, find a sport with divisions and the divisions can compete. 43 drivers in the last 10 races is not a play-off. It's a farce. Give more points for the win in each race, and the driver with the most points should be the driver with the most wins. And deserve the championship. Who wants to watch only 12 drivers in the last 10 races? Ratings will go up because fans of 43 drivers will be watching, instead of fans of only 12 drivers. And Jimmy will not be able to win them all if there is no 10 race finale. The chase is not bringing in new fans. But it is chasing away the fans they already had. In my opinion, there was no reason to start a new way to crown a champion. The system that was in place was working. Why fix something that was not broken? It was more fun and more exciting having a 36 race season than the 26 and 10 race system. 12th place can’t do any worse than 12th. And 13th can’t do any better. Is that really what it’s supposed to be about? All Jimmy has to do is be in the top 12 after 26 races and he will win every year. Why is that exciting? In 2003, Terry Labonte raced into the top 10 in the 36th race. Kurt Busch raced out of it. That’s exciting. In my opinion, giving a 10th place driver the chance to win it all in the last 10 races is not exciting. Jimmy will win his 7 like Petty and Earnhardt all in a row unless we get rid of this stupid system. If you want to watch a play-off, find a sport with divisions and the divisions can compete. 43 drivers in the last 10 races is not a play-off. It’s a farce. Give more points for the win in each race, and the driver with the most points should be the driver with the most wins. And deserve the championship. Who wants to watch only 12 drivers in the last 10 races? Ratings will go up because fans of 43 drivers will be watching, instead of fans of only 12 drivers. And Jimmy will not be able to win them all if there is no 10 race finale. The chase is not bringing in new fans. But it is chasing away the fans they already had.

]]> By: BILL http://stockcarspin.com/2009/11/25/time-to-compromise-in-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-488 BILL Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:30:32 +0000 http://stockcarspin.com/?p=564#comment-488 I'm not a JJ hater I'm a chase hater because they compare JJ to the likes of the great Petty and The great Earnhardt with this joke they call a point system. If you think about it three of the last championships were closer under the old point system and also Jeff Gordon would have 6 championships chasing his 7th. In all actuality Jeff Gordon is more comparable to the likes of Petty and Earnhardt not Johnson. I'm not a Jeff Gordon fan but I feel nascar has really robbed him of his career greatness and nascar is to stupid to admit their greatest blunder. I think Brian France needs to hold a banquet apologize for his great stupidity to the drivers and the fans and rewrite the books by giving the championships to the rightful owners.I have alot of friends who love nascar like its a religion and not one and I mean not one like this cocain driven pipe dream system this idiot has created. I’m not a JJ hater I’m a chase hater because they compare JJ to the likes of the great Petty and The great Earnhardt with this joke they call a point system. If you think about it three of the last championships were closer under the old point system and also Jeff Gordon would have 6 championships chasing his 7th. In all actuality Jeff Gordon is more comparable to the likes of Petty and Earnhardt not Johnson. I’m not a Jeff Gordon fan but I feel nascar has really robbed him of his career greatness and nascar is to stupid to admit their greatest blunder. I think Brian France needs to hold a banquet apologize for his great stupidity to the drivers and the fans and rewrite the books by giving the championships to the rightful owners.I have alot of friends who love nascar like its a religion and not one and I mean not one like this cocain driven pipe dream system this idiot has created.

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